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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 21:10:13 GMT -5
Everything must be considered and all weaknesses exposed. But don't exclude until all penetrations are evaluated and logged. Dual does not mean moving; it means both elements are equally considered, moving or not.
Boy, the parameters are incredibly important! Knowing, through having done Jokyo, which parameters to put in place in the laboratory for the sake of experimentation, will narrow to the least number of potential outcomes, which 1 or 2 will universally be viably martially applicable. That "design" process was an enormous spark for me. Remove one parameter and martially viable possibilities increase exponentially.
Talk about zeroing!
How inspirational is this? How important is this during instruction? Incredible!
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Post by NewcombMatthew on Nov 10, 2014 10:42:08 GMT -5
The amount of potential is overwhelming...my biggest spark.
My second biggest spark was..we DO NOT think basic enough. How difficult was it for many of us to come up with martial application because we were making it too complicated...moving the hand is martial application.
I have more, but am in an all day meeting whose break is ending...back soon.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 11:38:03 GMT -5
"It isn't about what we choose, it is about what we eliminate. That is what Jokyo is all about" - Viol Sensei..That quote was what really stuck with me from the Induction session, and to see the process start, to see what didn't work be eliminated was all sparks for me.
Matt, I agree, the potential IS overwhelming.
Another spark: It isn't just what we apply it on, but what we apply it with.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 12:26:58 GMT -5
Viol Sensei presented that it's not just their arm, it's our arm; their components, our components. They have to be looked at as they could be theirs or mine. It made me think of the graphic that was presented in Session Three of ITP 2014 and we were asked who's the attacker?
Yes, thinking basic enough is difficult. Why do we complicate it? I know personally I think that what I come up with is too simple, that it isn't good enough. In reality simple is good. It isn't about wowing the collective with look what I did or came up with. I think that helps take the pressure off and allows you to think simple, basic. Pointing out that thinking basic involved seeing circular, horizontal, vertical, linear, etc., helped me a lot. In the very beginning, Viol Sensei said the primary component was linear. Sometimes I miss the details and maybe he said this and I didn't pick up on it, but when he called it a tube I thought a tube combines both circular and linear in one which is why the tanbo IS weapon number one.
The discussion at the end about discovery was the biggest spark. It's not about doing what you been taught to do, it's about what you do with it. Before I can get there, I need to get back to the basics though. Back to the scales. I can't wait to see what I discover and what you all discover! Potential??? OMG!
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Post by Alan T Pelletier on Nov 10, 2014 14:36:51 GMT -5
With many discussions among many of you and the experiences/training I’ve had in the military one of the main goals of being an NCO was to cut through to the heart of the matter. One of the challenges in doing so is figuring out which is superfluous and which matters. Nothing different in that concept or with what we’re tasked to do as a collective. When the superfluous is suspended and cast aside nothing is left but key details and quite simply the truth. That’s it.
These exercises are supposed to teach us the difference between the two; what is important and which is not? Cutting through to the heart of the matter in this case is not just an exercise to get to the point, it’s to prove the point by finding the null points so when we discard we know WHY we discard.
Before I do what we’ve all been doing and just repeat the same stuff as the last guy, have any of you noticed that Viol Shihan is just repeating what he’s been telling us all along?
Short of a few sparks none of this material should be surprising to anyone.
~A
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Post by NewcombMatthew on Nov 10, 2014 21:39:23 GMT -5
I was talking to Kim Ostrowski earlier about the limited experiences and exposure we have had to the process thus far. I am finding it difficult to extract specifics, and certain items covered and it seems to me that it may be because they are like the pieces of a puzzle that fit perfectly...when they fit in, it is hard to go back and determine exactly where they were missing before. It makes the rough edges seamless, so it becomes difficult to pick out where the rough edges were.
Now, my edges are still so very rough...but maybe a little less. If only I could go back and pick the 1 or 2 things that did it...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 8:04:17 GMT -5
Perhaps he is repeating, Alan. However, I know that I can hear or read the same thing several times and get something new from it each time. My level of understanding gets a little bit better each time. So, it's not that the material is surprising, rather, it is the, "Oh, I finally get it" that is so great. Why should there be a shortage of sparks? All of us are at different levels in our understanding. That is why sharing sparks are important no matter how repetitive they may seem. It spurs discussion, it helps the collective come together, makes us stronger as a whole when we can share our discoveries, thus allowing us to move forward together. If we all come to the same or similar sparks/conclusions, isn't that a form of validation that the process works? It's for Viol Sensei's benefit but also for ours. We can see that this isn't a waste of our time, right?
Alan, I think you are right on about cutting away the superfluous. Does anyone remember the list of things we were supposed to let go of in the Shidoin ITP 2014 course? It included:
apprehensions, desires, inklings, perspectives
arrogance, dislikes, insights, perceptions
assumptions, favorites, judgments, postures
attitudes, feelings likes, preconceptions
awareness, grasps, mindsets, prejudices
beliefs, habits, muscle memories, routines
biases ideas, needs, stances
comprehension, ignorance notions viewpoints
conceptions, imaginations, opinions, ways
considerations, impressions, organizations, etc…
I think perhaps that this is the superfluous that needs to be cut away. You can only get rid of it if it is exposed though. I believe Jokyō will do exactly this. I have to add that as I was scanning the list above I noticed that PREFERENCES was not on it. It occurred to me that all of those on the list are indeed PREFERENCES. So when he says No Preferences, it covers it all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 14:03:09 GMT -5
I've said this before and I'll say it again, Jokyo is the matrix. It has always been there, we were simply unable to perceive it. As our Extreme ASE becomes more attuned to the darkness, more and more light is being created as our understanding deepens. Depth and layers.
Viol Sensei said one time during a training session at the Shinbukan that "When you have ceased to care, you have arrived." He was talking about having no preferences. When you reach the point where you can see the matrix (Jokyo) so clearly that it is ever-present before your eyes, you will no longer care. Not caring gives you unlimited freedom to act. When fighting, you will see the matrix and be able to successfully fill all the openings, create all the openings and act as purely as possible.
Jokyo gives you ultimate confidence in your ability to act. This was a huge spark for me. It is the ultimate form of programming because it eliminates all doubts. When all doubts have been eliminated, and you arrive at the place of not caring, you can act. Not only can you act, but you will act because you have programmed to do so. Not only have you been programmed to do so, but you believe in the programming. You believe and know without a doubt that you can and will act. That is empowering. Perhaps more importantly, it motivates me to continue the process of Jokyo. I can already see how powerful the process is and that alone compels me to keep pursuing it. To keep moving forward.
Excellent session 01 where more and more things are being zeroed and the Shidoin technologies are alive and thriving. How could it be any other way?
Alex Lanshe
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 15:01:10 GMT -5
I've read all your comments and there are some things being repeated, which means to me we're on the same page. For example, Kim wrote about reading something several times in order to finally "GET IT. " I'm the same way, after reading and physically doing the task a few times I "get it".
Alan mentioned getting rid of the superfluous, and by doing so saves time . We all know how important time is in a fight, or for that matter in every day life (don't we all wish we had more time?). Also, I don't know how many times Viol Sensei has said, " In a fight it's more important to know what doesn't work, than what does work." These are my thoughts as well.
Bryan
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Post by lbegue on Nov 11, 2014 18:14:40 GMT -5
Spark: "Techniques will occur from the voids"....Wow!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 7:09:25 GMT -5
Spark: "Techniques will occur from the voids"....Wow! My first thought on this was necessity is the mother of all invention. Is it the same line of thinking? There's a void - fill it. Is this where our programming kicks in and we ACT? |
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Post by John Green on Nov 12, 2014 17:59:13 GMT -5
"Just do it!"
Nike
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Post by Alan T Pelletier on Nov 12, 2014 22:01:41 GMT -5
Instead of asking questions perhaps as a collective we can just start doing and exploring the new found freedom we have in the endless possibilities. Is there a requirement that we can't each explore what strikes our fancy and share, thus REALLY strengthening the collective? To expand on what John meant when he quoted Nike, stop asking questions and just start getting busy!
Still reading this? Then you're obviously not getting busy enough...
~A
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 9:24:38 GMT -5
I am not going to stop asking questions, nor sharing sparks, nor taking notes. A discovery begins with a question. Look at the Scientific Method. It begins with a question which then leads to experimentation - the 'Just do it' part. Then you are to document your findings and share with others. We are regularly encouraged to do so. So my next question is 'Why aren't you?' 'Just do it!'
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Post by John Green on Nov 13, 2014 13:06:22 GMT -5
"Don't Make Assumptions. Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life."
Miguel Angel Ruiz
NOTE!....
"Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer."
William S. Burroughs
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